Super SF2 Turbo Advanced Tutorial by David Sirlin
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Advanced tutorial video from Capcom Classics Collection Vol. 2 by David Sirlin
Video Rating: 4 / 5
Advanced tutorial video from Capcom Classics Collection Vol. 2 by David Sirlin
Video Rating: 4 / 5
December 26th, 2011 - 05:37
I don’t get why people are talking about cheapness. He isn’t taking advantage of glitches or infinite combos.
December 26th, 2011 - 05:46
o_O and I thought I playe games to the point of having no life
guess not
December 26th, 2011 - 06:01
Superb tutorial
December 26th, 2011 - 06:02
@AmanOU2be Some people would prefer a more active “policing” of the game, but that’s irrelevant. If you choose to play a game or sport, you are choosing to compete under the existing rules. If you don’t like that, then don’t play.
A “gun to a knife fight” analogy doesn’t work, because that entire situation exists outside of any rules.
“Win at all costs(as long as you don’t break rules)” is the nature of competition itself. If you don’t get this, you don’t understand what competition is about.
December 26th, 2011 - 06:03
@AmanOU2be Until the community-wide rules are changed, it is OK to use whatever is allowed. This is just how things work.
People deciding for themselves what is allowed and isn’t allowed, that is not how things work. You can’t decide that stabbing people in the face is allowed. You can’t decide that blocking shots in basketball isn’t allowed.
You follow the rules of the game/sport/legal system, and you don’t get to complain about other people (“no fair blocking my shot!”)
December 26th, 2011 - 06:09
@bobdonda Well then they need to be more active in policing the game. More nerfs and more buffs.
Plus you cannot compare this to much of real life because real life does not always work in the confines of game code. I CAN bring a gun to a knife fight. Chun CANNOT start throwing air fireballs.
I do not expect people to follow MY rules. But I would prefer that the “win at all costs’ shit stops. I know neither will happen.
December 26th, 2011 - 06:53
@bobdonda Just because something is not accepted by all/many, does not mean it is not an exception. Its like a theory that has not been proven into a law. The theory may be 100% correct. O. Sagat (iirc) was banned in some tournies.
Backbone is who was in charge of HDR.
December 26th, 2011 - 07:34
@AmanOU2be But what you can’t do is ban things from just your own games, based on only your own opinions, and expect other people to follow those rules. There would be millions of insane versions of SF and you’d never know what your opponent’s personal rules are. It would be fucking retarded.
You can’t decide on what is fine using personal opinion. That’s why the rules are decided by the game itself. That’s why all sports, all games, and all legal systems work this way.
December 26th, 2011 - 07:54
@AmanOU2be Things are either in the game or they aren’t. That is how you know what’s fine to use. If it’s in the game you can use it.
With any rule, there are rare exceptions. Akuma is banned in ST, game-freezing glitches are banned in other games. When the entire community agrees that something is completely gamebreaking, it is ok to ban it from competition. (This has never included fireball traps or throws or O.Sagat.)
BTW I don’t know what Backbone is, but it isn’t relevant.
December 26th, 2011 - 08:09
@AmanOU2be Congratulations dude~ never said you had to be the best, you just have a loser’s mentality. Street Fighter is a game where someone is going to lose, and the one who wins is the one who plays the game. The entire game. The only referee was Capcom, and they are the ones who gave you options you don’t even exist~ because while you’re playing your code, everyone else is playing THE GAME. The fact you don’t understand that means everyone you play, is wasting their time. You never started.
December 26th, 2011 - 08:17
@bobdonda But other items are within the “whatever it takes to win” category. I am glad you would not do those. But we disagree about what is fine in the game. There is stuff that is in the gmae but has not been fixed or Backbone feels it is fine. All that means is that BACKBONE thinks it is fine. This is why o.Sagat and Gouki get banned. THEY ARE NOT FINE. Now the stuff you list up there is liked by far too many people to get taken out. But then again look at SF4 AE.
December 26th, 2011 - 09:02
@AmanOU2be I completely agree with everything you just said to me. But some people seem to not understand that the things being complained about are within the rules of the game.
tick-throws = within the rules of the game. it’s part of the game itself and nothing is wrong with using it
fireball traps = within the rules of the game
hitting opponent’s controller = NOT within the rules, should never be allowed, it’s wrong to ever do this.
punching opponent in the face = NOT within the rules
December 26th, 2011 - 09:10
@strikerk Right back at you, cupcake. If you need to use extra advantages to win, seems like YOU are the one who needs the ego boost. I won trophies in KI1-2 locally and they don’t mean shit. I am never going to be the best of the best anyway with a full time job.
December 26th, 2011 - 09:51
@bobdonda Thats the issue. You have this wrong idea of good strategy. Even in war there are rules. If breaking those to win a war is “good stratregy” to you then I think I will never get through to you. Its not even the game. Its the players. I do not do whatever it takes to win and do not like playing those people. I never know how far they will go either.
December 26th, 2011 - 10:11
@AmanOU2be Well, that’s the nature of the game. The game allows people to use tactics that are difficult to counter. It’s fine to not like that kind of game… but play a different game, instead of complaining at someone who is doing nothing more than using a good strategy.
December 26th, 2011 - 10:42
@AmanOU2be Yeah, sure~ lol… you’re probably used to losing a lot. It’s okay dude, whatever it is that makes you feel better about being bad at the game.
December 26th, 2011 - 10:59
@bobdonda You are still having problems discerning skill from unfair balancing/advantages. Ridiculous windows of opportunity are at hand too. If your track star only had 1/60th of a second to overtake his rival or lose the heat/race and he lost, I find it hard to believe all would be hunky dory.
December 26th, 2011 - 11:51
@strikerk Fuck a stupid ass trophy and the reputation you can get with that attitude. Will still stick with my “code” and spine. People who win at all costs are FUCKIN PATHETIC. Plus if they NEED to use all that, then they are not the best in the first place.
December 26th, 2011 - 11:57
@AmanOU2be You are the definition of a scrub. “I try to win, but only a little bit.”
If you were on a track team in high school, for the 100 yard dash did you run sort of fast but not TOO fast because it might not give the other runners a chance?
If you were on the football team did you plan to score some points but not too many? Did you use good plays, but not your most effective plays because it might be hard for the other team to stop them?
Of course not. In competition, you try to win.
December 26th, 2011 - 12:21
@MasterKurow Sometimes it’s hard to fight the urge, though…
December 26th, 2011 - 13:09
It’s annoying how he doesn’t know how to pronounce Ryu correctly.
December 26th, 2011 - 13:35
People complain about cheapness because they can’t accept that it’s their own damn fault they lost.
If I lose, I won’t complain about how unfair my opponent is, I’d complain about how stupid I was and try to learn from that.
December 26th, 2011 - 13:43
I never get tired of Street Fighter. Never have, never will.
December 26th, 2011 - 14:38
Great vid, very interesting. Would love to see some up to date ones for ssf4.
December 26th, 2011 - 14:53
this made me miss arcades, my first arcade memory was watching sf be played (im 20 now) and the crowds it brought. i dont even think theres an arcade in my city anymore, mabey just a pladium.